LARRY PFAFF, M.A., Ed.D., LPC Author of Ready, Set, Change: Why Knowing What to Do Isn’t Enough Amazon #1 New Release - Psychology Education and Organizational Change INTERVIEW TOPIC: Why Smart People Stay Stuck (Even When They Know What to Do) After 40 years as a therapist and organizational consultant, Dr. Pfaff heard the same confession thousands of times: "I know what to do. I just don't do it." His book reveals the five stages of psychological readiness that create lasting change—and why most advice only works at one stage. Business/Leadership: Why workplace training fails What companies get wrong about change Matching development to readiness Personal Development: Why resolutions fail | The Contemplation Trap One question that reveals your change stage Mental Health: Why therapists don't apply Stages of Change Matching interventions to client readiness General Interest: Why intelligent people stay stuck The knowing-doing gap Real stories from 21 managers ABOUT DR. PFAFF Larry Pfaff has spent over four decades working with individuals, groups, and organizations in counseling, leadership development, coaching, and organizational consulting. His background includes: ∙ Licensed Professional Counselor since Michigan’s original licensing law in 1990 ∙ 15 years as a Professor of Psychology ∙ Former Dean of Business ∙ Published researcher in leadership and 360-degree feedback assessment ∙ Lifelong member of APA and SIOP ∙ Author of multiple assessment instruments used in organizations ABOUT THE BOOK Ready, Set, Change presents a framework for why people struggle to change even when they know what to do. Based on 40 years of work and a year-long program with 21 managers, it reveals the five stages of psychological readiness and why matching support to stage creates lasting change. CONTACT Larry Pfaff, M.A., Ed.D., LPC 269-370-0083 drlarrypfaff@gmail.com https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GX32NPPV

David ("Dave") Brower is a native of the Lansing area, having graduated from Okemos High School in 1965. He attended MSU, completing his BA in Accounting in June 1969 and his MBA in Finance in December 1970. He was an auditor at the public accounting firm of Ernst & Ernst, Lansing Office, from 1971 - until October 1979, obtaining his Michigan CPA certification in 1973. Mr. Brower held various positions at MSU during his career, which spanned 32 years, retiring at the end of December 2011. In October 1979, Mr. Brower started his career at MSU as Assistant Controller of Student Services and moved to the position of Assistant Controller of Administrative Services in 1982. In 1995 he was promoted to Controller and to Assistant Vice President, CFO and Controller in 2001. In this position, he worked to ensure that MSU operated with the highest degree of financial integrity; that issues affecting the financial health of the university were identified and strategies formulated to deal with those issues; that timely and appropriate financial decisions were made; that University assets were safeguarded; and, that accounting financial policies and procedures were developed and updated as required by state and federal regulations and changes in governmental accounting standards. For several years before his retirement, Mr. Brower's served on a MSU steering committee charged with developing and replacing MSU’s 40-year-old financial system and it’s over 25-year-old Human Resource and Payroll Systems. As a result of this effort, in 2011 MSU implemented the Kuali Open-Source Finance System and the SAP HR/Payroll Systems, which have evolved and are still being used today. Mr. Brower committed several years to assist in conceptual development of "The Kuali Open Source" financial software and was a member of the related Kuali Foundation developing the software. Mr. Brower's involvement in the development of the Kuali Open-Source Financial System was instrumental to its success. Mr. Brower was widely respected by the campus community as an open and inclusive leader. He is a strong advocate for transparency and win-win solutions to problems. In 2009 he was one of the recipients of the MSU Outstanding Supervisor of the Year award. As part of his university outreach activities Mr. Brower represented MSU in numerous areas. He was a board member and officer for the Lansing/Jackson Chapter of the National Association of Accountants for many years. For over 30 years, he was a board member of the University Club of MSU, serving as treasurer or president for many of those years. Upon his retirement, he was made an Emeritus Board Member of the Club. Mr. Brower has been recognized on numerous occasions for his long-time dedication to area community service organizations, including the YMCA Board of Metropolitan Lansing, an organization he became involved with in 1980. He served in various leadership roles for the Y over the years and was awarded the Y’s Volunteer of the Year award in 1985 and 2022. He also served on the Capital Area United Way Board and was awarded their Volunteer of the Year Award in 1999. His volunteer service continues up to the present time. A long-time member of the Peoples Church of East Lansing, he has been a member of the Finance Ministry for the past 25 years, having served as church treasurer for 7 years during that time. After retirement, he served for 12 years as board member and treasurer of Burcham Hill Life Care Community in East Lansing and started volunteering for the Wharton Center for the Performing Arts as a member of their Inner Circle Volunteer support group. At their recent Inner Circle Volunteer Event in May 2026, he received the Wharton Center Directors Award for “for exemplary volunteer service, dedication and friendship.” Mr. Brower was elected as the MSU Retirees Association (MSURA) President for fiscal years (FY) 24-25 and FY 25-26, his second year ending June 30, 2026. He served as the MSURA Treasurer for 10 years prior to being elected president and, was an at-large board member prior to that. He received the MSURA’s Volunteer of the Year Award in 2023 and, for a second time in May 2026. Mr. Brower supports MSU in many ways. He is a major donor whose interests include the MSU Music School, the Wharton Center for Performing Arts, MSU Athletics scholarships, and the MSURA Endowed Scholarship Fund. He was also an early supporter of the MSU Leadership Spartan Scholarship Challenge Fund. In addition, he has long held season tickets for MSU athletics and the Wharton Center. In retirement, he enjoys traveling, movies, reading and attending various events and functions on campus. He also enjoys biking and walking on campus. Since retirement, he has become a big jazz music fan, volunteering at local jazz festivals and enjoying performances by MSU Jazz faculty and students. 

Segment 1: The Hook & The Hustle Theme: Setting the stage, from small-town Flushing to full-blown financial independence. The Intro: A bubbly, high-energy greeting. Briefly cover your "elevator pitch" (Broad student, MHRLR admit, fitness instructor, brand partner). Leaving the Small Town Behind: Discussing the mindset shift from growing up in Flushing to wanting more out of life. Financial Independence as Fuel: How paying your own way through college wasn't just a burden, but the exact catalyst that made you ambitious. Takeaway for Spartans: You don’t need a safety net to succeed. Financial independence forces you to be resourceful, network harder, and say "yes" to opportunities that others might skip. Segment 2: Academic Grind Theme: Academic grind, strategic planning, and leveling up. The Undergrad Grind: What it takes to survive and thrive at Broad. The MHRLR Master's Acceptance: The strategy behind applying for the shared HR master’s program. Takeaway for Spartans: Success in a massive college like Broad is about finding your niche and planning ahead. Talk to advisors early. Segment 3: Finding Your Rhythm – Cycling & Community Theme: College, money, training, food That First Class at MSU: The story of walking into your first indoor cycling class and how it instantly clicked. Stepping up to the Podium: The transition from rider to instructor. How building a community in the cycling studio became your ultimate stress reliever and leadership training ground. Brand Partnerships ($) + Food (HUEL & BTFast): How promoting health and wellness authentically led to working with brands you actually love, money. Discussing the importance of protein and meal prep when your schedule is packed. Hotel (Marriott): Making many connections and furthering my interpersonal skills with my co-workers and guests. Takeaway for Spartans: Your campus experience shouldn't just be about academics. Find an intramural sport or a fitness class . Even consider getting a part-time job to find your people. Community is what grounds you when the academic pressure gets heavy. Segment 4: The Balancing Act & The Blueprint Theme: Time management, overcoming burnout, and handing the blueprint to the next class. The Reality of the Grind: Candidly discussing how I balance being a full-time student, working, teaching cycle, and maintaining brand deals. (Admit that it gets messy sometimes, but the discipline is worth it). Overcoming the Odds: Reflecting on the biggest hurdles you’ve faced and how being forced to fend for yourself early on gave you the grit to push through. The Spartan Blueprint: Your direct message to incoming MSU students who feel overwhelmed. Takeaway for Spartans: Time management is everything. Utilize your calendar, prioritize your physical health (like fueling properly with protein!) Segment 5: Branding Deal Side Hustle BTFAST: Talking Points Local + Young Entrepreneurial: every meal is produced here as Spartans in our Lansing community! Supporting an up and coming business (before its more $$) and bringing more business to Lansing! Macronutrient-Balanced: Every single meal is perfectly macro-balanced. No Seed Oils: This is a huge non-negotiable in the fitness space right now. BTFast uses absolutely zero seed oils. I am getting clean energy that actually sustains me through those brutal hill climbs in the studio, without that heavy, sluggish feeling you get from processed oils. Taste & Convenience: "And the best part? It tastes incredible. It’s like having a personal chef who knows exactly what your body needs to perform, packaged up and ready to go.”

Dr Ken Stringer is a Michigan State College of Osteopathic Medicine professor and world-renowned clinician. His Clinical practice was at Okemos Pediatrics, which is part of the MSU Health Care team. Dr. Stringer retired after 42 years of practice. He is currently teaching medical students in their Clinical Skills course, where they learn to listen to heart sounds, look into ears, etc. Highlights of his clinical career involved- taking care of sick children, i.e. asthma, cardiac issues and gastrointestinal concerns. Dr. Stringer has treated Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and we discuss this and many other issues that affect teenagers. Other highlights of his medical career included being a team physician for high school and collegiate athletes, and a physician at the US Olympic Committee Sports Festival in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Over the 42 years of teaching medical students, it has been an honor to be a mentor to these students with their enthusiasm of learning medicine during their Medical School careers. It has been great to see so many of them turn into caring, compassionate physicians, like Dr. Michael Shingles. Dr. Stringer was trained in Pediatrics at the Children's Hospital of Michigan in Detroit, before beginning my career with MSU College of Osteopathic Medicine Pediatric Department. Ken is married to Nancy, and they have three sons. Ryan, David, and Jeremy, who with their exceptional wives have given us 8 grandchildren!! It has been a wonderful career, and Dr Stringer is honored to be part of the MSU faculty for over 42 years.

If you have ever wondered what good episodes are to explore on our program, Mitch Anderson, the renowned producer of our program for the past 6 years has his picks.  They are always great choices! They include- D. Leon Stokes-50 Things,,, Dr.Debbie Heiser- Many Phases of Life,,, Mike Draheim- XLR8 Sports,,, The Students-Multiple interviews with awesome MSU students Kendall Brooks and Brock Fletcher- Winning Time Mitch and I also talk about sobriety, and our own personal; journeys on just getting better!

East Side Fish Fry is a well-known restaurant in Lansing, Michigan. It wasn't always that way! Henry Meyer is the epitome of "never say quit"! When Henry bought an investment property in Lansing, he intended to rent it out to a small business that was looking to set up shop. There was a problem, the first of many. No one would rent it, so Henry decided to utilize the building, really out of necessity; East Side Fish Fry was born. Listen to this fabulous interview with the man who has dealt with so many troubles; he really should write a book in his spare time. Henry also discusses his newest business, Fortuo , a great marijuana dispensary in Lansing. In this episode, please listen for these points- Being an involved Dad Never say die Give em a chance How to bounce back

Since 1970, Airport Tavern & Steakhouse has been Lansing’s neighborhood steakhouse and bar. In today’s interview Marcus Powers will discuss his core principles and business savvy! Hospitality at its core Restaurant industry Las Vegas industry experience Lansing experience personal/ professional My vision for ATS. Bio: Grew up in Tucson AZ Went to culinary school at AIPX Externship at Le Cordon Bleu in Paris France Continued education at NAU Worked at Emerils fishhouse Worked for a restaurant chain that was private when I started that went public Went back to work for Emerils Delmonico's Steakhouse as a manager and eventually a Sommelier

Tom Mitchell is a long-term friend and trainer who started the 'Spin Class’s at MSU over 20 years ago, he has ridden some miles. In this episode we cover Tom's journey into the #ReFirementZone, his 50-year career at MSU, from Ag Econ to Purchasing this man has done it all. A fine athlete, serious competitor and great trainer Tom can be reached by email @ mitch27@msu.edu In my friend’s words these are a few tips- Be curious not judgmental Accountability is the key to success Spin, what is it and why should you try it Is exercise the "Fountain of Youth"?

Lee Boyce is one of the finest trainers in North America. Based in Toronto Lee has taught, trained, lived, and done all the heavy lifting. In this episode Lee and I discuss:  How the business of training has changed. How Lee has leaned into being a trainer on the gym floor FIRST! Training at basically 40 years old for Lee has taken an entirely different perspective. Social media is an unreliable teacher and learning tool "Charging Your Worth" has become egregious Lee and his acronym TEST t-Trust e- Enjoyment s-Safety t-Theory